RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 26, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Some more ECML photos today, this time at Swayfield - which as we all know is on Stoke Bank between Peterborough and Grantham. Swayfield Class 31 up parcels Jan 70 J2049 Swayfield Class 47 up 11.32 Bradford to Kings X a Saturday Sept 72 J3110 Swayfield Class 40 274? down June 73 J3216 Swayfield 55 55012 down Feb 76 J5056 Note 55012 not 55020 as in the file name. Swayfield 254010 up 30th May 78 C3882 David Edited January 26, 2018 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Interesting picture of Aylesbury and the last 117 not sorry to see them go but anyone remember the steam service with I think Met coaches they had an curved section over the door . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Some more ECML photos today, this time at Swayfield - which as we all know is on Stoke Bank between Peterborough and Grantham. Swayfield Class 31 up parcels Jan 70 J2049.jpg Swayfield Class 31 up parcels Jan 70 J2049 Swayfield Class 40 274 down June 73 J3216.jpg Swayfield Class 40 274? down June 73 J3216 Swayfield 55020 down Feb 76 J5056.jpg Swayfield 55 down Feb 76 J5056 David J2049 - only 19 candidates. D prefix. Last digit possibly 6, might be D5516 (but very much a longshot). J3216 - I agree with 274. J5056 - too easy for a proper Spot-the-Deltic, it would be like a Spot-the-Ball with the ball still there! Edited January 26, 2018 by Western Glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the Swayfield photos. The first one shows a very interesting parcels train, with the 31 powering it. Then in the second photo you have a 47 plus 8. Would the 47 be standing in for a Deltic? With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2018 J2049. Possibly on 5A00, but a rarity none the less. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Slip of the finger not 117 but 115 number of times I rode on them should remembered ust be getting more ancient! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2018 J5056 - too easy for a proper Spot-the-Deltic, it would be like a Spot-the-Ball with the ball still there! Maybe, but Dave your file name says 55020 whereas it looks much more like 55012 CREPELLO than NIMBUS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Maybe, but Dave your file name says 55020 whereas it looks much more like 55012 CREPELLO than NIMBUS. It's Schroedinger's Deltic - It's 55020 on the outside whilst simultaneously being 55012 on the inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2018 You should have taken a saw to that tree :-) Dave wanted to make sure we saw it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the Swayfield photos. The first one shows a very interesting parcels train, with the 31 powering it. Then in the second photo you have a 47 plus 8. Would the 47 be standing in for a Deltic? With warmest regards, Rob. And that's a 31/0 up front with a motley collection of 4 wheeled and bogie NPCCS. Looks like the down slow was relaid in 1971 and the telegraph poles were felled in 1974/5. Some wouldn't venture out in less than perfect lighting, good job some of us recorded the dull days.... Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 26, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Hi, Dave. I like the Swayfield photos. The first one shows a very interesting parcels train, with the 31 powering it. Then in the second photo you have a 47 plus 8. Would the 47 be standing in for a Deltic? With warmest regards, Rob. I think it was usually a Deltic working. Maybe, but Dave your file name says 55020 whereas it looks much more like 55012 CREPELLO than NIMBUS. I realised that the number was wrong after I had published the file so removed it from the caption, but of course that leaves the file name unchanged and I didn't have time to delete it, rename it and then upload it again. And that's a 31/0 up front with a motley collection of 4 wheeled and bogie NPCCS. Looks like the down slow was relaid in 1971 and the telegraph poles were felled in 1974/5. Some wouldn't venture out in less than perfect lighting, good job some of us recorded the dull days.... Dave For many years both Dad and I took most of our photographs on Saturdays, we both worked indoors much of the time so whatever the weather it was nice to be outdoors for a while. However in the days of ISO50 (it was ASA50 then) film taking photos in poor light could be a challenge. I think Dad used a 50mm f1.4 lens for a time which helped. My 50mm lens around the time of these photos was probably f1.8. David Edited January 26, 2018 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 The number of the 31/0 will eventually be whittled down from the original 20 by virtue of the position of the electrification flash. i just haven't got time to do so at the moment. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 I think it was usually a Deltic working. I realised that the number was wrong after I had published the file so removed it from the caption, but of course that leaves the file name unchanged and I didn't have time to delete it, rename it and then upload it again. For many years both Dad and I took most of our photographs on Saturdays, we both worked indoors much of the time so whatever the weather it was nice to be outdoors for a while. However in the days of ISO50 (it was ASA50 then) film taking photos in poor light could be a challenge. I think Dad used a 50mm f1.4 lens for a time which helped. My 50mm lens around the time of these photos was probably f1.8. David Luxury! The best I ever aspired to was Agfa ASA50 slide film with f2.8 lens. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 J2049 - only 19 candidates. D prefix. Last digit possibly 6, might be D5516 (but very much a longshot). D-prefix would suggest it's D5502, D5506 or D5515. Mostly the 31/0s went from GSYP to BFYE without D-prefix, from late 1968-on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1A21 - David, are you sure this was a Saturday? The CWN has the 11:32SO Bradford-KX as a Mk 1 set. On weekdays 1A21 was the 11:50 Bradford-KX, which was the return of the 07:55SX KX-Bradford. On Saturdays this set formed the 08:25 KX-Leeds, a stopping service arriving 11:50, so not in time to form the Bradford train. J3216 - from the formation was the 16:15 KX-York. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 1A21 - David, are you sure this was a Saturday? The CWN has the 11:32SO Bradford-KX as a Mk 1 set. On weekdays 1A21 was the 11:50 Bradford-KX, which was the return of the 07:55SX KX-Bradford. On Saturdays this set formed the 08:25 KX-Leeds, a stopping service arriving 11:50, so not in time to form the Bradford train. J3216 - from the formation was the 16:15 KX-York. It should be a Saturday as Dad worked Monday to Friday then, as well as some Saturday mornings. I have a photo of the same train, again I worked Monday to Friday and didn't take photos on Sundays as that was church and Sunday lunch!. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) Time for another batch of Great Eastern photos today, at Manningtree and also Bentley, on the north side of the river on the climb out of the valley of the River Stour on the way to Ipswich. Manningtree SR S15 841 Greene King Manningtree to Loughborough steam to Ely 3rd April 76 C2667 Manningtree Class 47 Liverpool St to Norwich Jan 78 C3650 Bentley Class 31 Peterborough to Parkeston Quay June 75 J4374 Bentley Class 47 up June 75 J4375 18.40 Norwich to Liverpool St. Bentley Class 47 down June 75 J4378 18.40SX Liverpool St to Norwich 47100 Thanks to Robertcwp for the train details. David Edited January 28, 2018 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the GE photos. In J4374, the 31 makes a fine sight at the head of 1C18 to Parkeston Quay. Then in the next photo’, J4375, the 47 hauled train, has, as the second vehicle, a postal Mk1. Im just not quite sure which diagram it is. Perhaps someone can work out which one it is. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47164 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 If j4375 was taken in mid summer It might be the late pm service that always included a sorting/ posting facility ,as I recall from my early commuting days that you could post letters at Liverpool st in a letter box on the side of the coach, the service sometimes had up to 14 coaches... not too sure from the photo is ex Norwich or Liverpool st Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 If j4375 was taken in mid summer It might be the late pm service that always included a sorting/ posting facility ,as I recall from my early commuting days that you could post letters at Liverpool st in a letter box on the side of the coach, the service sometimes had up to 14 coaches... not too sure from the photo is ex Norwich or Liverpool st It's heading from Norwich to Liverpool Street. It would have been taken around 7pm or a bit later as Dad sometimes went to a pub near there for a meal when he was visiting Ipswich for work. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If j4375 was taken in mid summer It might be the late pm service that always included a sorting/ posting facility ,as I recall from my early commuting days that you could post letters at Liverpool st in a letter box on the side of the coach, the service sometimes had up to 14 coaches... not too sure from the photo is ex Norwich or Liverpool st You are quite right. You could post letters in a post box on the side of the coach but I have a recollection that it was more expensive than the normal post. Could be wrong though - memory can play tricks. Chris Turnbull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 In May 1974, 1K26 was the 1830(SO)/1840(SX) Liverpool Street-Norwich. I don't have the 1975-6 workings. The K headcode was because the stock went on as the 2058 Norwich-Yarmouth. Still the same in 1976. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 In 1974, 1N27 was the 1840 Norwich-Liverpool Street. The front of the train matches the Monday to Friday carriage workings for that year. There was no POS in the train on Saturdays. I don't have the 1975-6 workings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 You are quite right. You could post letters in a post box on the side of the coach but I have a recollection that it was more expensive than the normal post. Could be wrong though - memory can play tricks. Chris Turnbull Pretty sure it only had to be 1st class to be posted into the train like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Pretty sure it only had to be 1st class to be posted into the train like that. There wasn't First Class for most of the life of the TPO service - you needed to attach an additional stamp; 1/2d or 1d according to the period in question, I seem to recall. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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