hminh2005 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Thank you for explaining the issue that I still don't understand. Because I have several H0 scale steam locos from America and Europe (Germany, Austria...), all of which have front and rear lights that work. It may be because the principles of operating locomotives in each country are different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 31 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, hminh2005 said: Thank you for explaining the issue that I still don't understand. Because I have several H0 scale steam locos from America and Europe (Germany, Austria...), all of which have front and rear lights that work. It may be because the principles of operating locomotives in each country are different. A fundamental difference is that away from the UK trains were fitted with headlamps to provide illumination - although whether braking was good enough to stop the train if an obstruction was spotted is a moot point! As has been mentioned back up the thread lamps on the front on a loco in the UK never fulfilled that purpose in steam days …. They were merely there to indicate the class of the train being hauled to assist signalmen and other operating staff in identifying the train. This means that to be credible headlamp positions on UK steam outline models cannot be fixed if realistic operation is to be modelled. The same with tail lamps…. If a locomotive is hauling a train the lamp would be on the last vehicle of the train not on the locomotive so the same issue applies. The function of a tail lamp is to designate that the train is complete ….. no lamp, the train must have split! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted January 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31 As always, there were exceptions to the rule 😉 I'll never pass up an opportunity to bring Bertha into a conversation 😄 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 31 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Fair Oak Junction said: As always, there were exceptions to the rule 😉 I'll never pass up an opportunity to bring Bertha into a conversation 😄 But of course! Bromsgrove on a dark December night needs all the illumination it can get…. 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 31 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Fair Oak Junction said: As always, there were exceptions to the rule 😉 I'll never pass up an opportunity to bring Bertha into a conversation 😄 But it still has an oil lamp.. in the slow passenger position, rather oddly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, hminh2005 said: Thank you for explaining the issue that I still don't understand. Because I have several H0 scale steam locos from America and Europe (Germany, Austria...), all of which have front and rear lights that work. It may be because the principles of operating locomotives in each country are different. I apologise sincerely for mistaking for your earlier enquiry for humour . Please do not be put off generally and in particular RMweb is an excellent source . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Fair Oak Junction said: As always, there were exceptions to the rule 😉 I'll never pass up an opportunity to bring Bertha into a conversation 😄 As that is an image from the Midland Railway era, it is possible - I don't know - that a single lamp in front of the chimney MAY have been a legitimate code for that duty. Headlamp codes did vary over time, and from railway to railway. What was printed in the diagram in the front of your Ian Allan spotting book was the then-current 'standard' code - things had not always been thus; (..... and the ex-S&DJR had an entirely different coding system right up until its closure)! CJI. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Quite interesting and I hadn't noticed before that Bertha's main lamp has a fairly substantial cant downwards - I thought it was more parallel to the rails than that. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Quite interesting and I hadn't noticed before that Bertha's main lamp has a fairly substantial cant downwards - I thought it was more parallel to the rails than that. Al. It was intended to illuminate the rear end of the train to which it was buffering-up. After all, as a banker, it had little need to illuminate the road ahead! CJI. 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 That's a very good, and very critical point - could even push off the rails I suppose in extreme circumstances, so a fine balance may be required on occasion, thus good illumination was essential. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted January 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31 Bertha's lamp had two beams, or one beam split into two. One aimed forward, one aimed down. Must have been fun being a guard when she was buffering up to your train at night 😄 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted January 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, adb968008 said: But it still has an oil lamp.. in the slow passenger position, rather oddly. Seems to have been normal for the Lickey bankers, even in LMS/BR days. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Oh joy ! MRJ 301 arrived today and I ripped it open in an ecstasy of fumbling ! At last - How to carry out the conversion to EM - oh frabulous day ! Not so fast - there is a trailer with the main article to follow . Patience is a virtue . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbolicus Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I am neither a railway modeller nor particularly a railway enthusiast, although I will go a long way to see a steam locomotive in the flesh. But when I stumbled upon a YouTube video of an Accurascale Manor I simply had to have one. It was the sheer die cast quality - none of your plastic tat - the detail, the beauty of the paint schemes. So now I am the very pleased owner of ‘Fringford Manor’, which will live on my desk on a piece of Hornby-Dublo three-rail track, and towing a Hornby-Dublo tinplate Western Region coach, both of which came my way by chance. It will probably never run since I am useless at making anything, let alone a model railway. I know that will seem ridiculous to all you purists, but hey, it works for me! And I’m sure Fran of Accurascale will be please to have made another well-deserved sale! 4 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, carbolicus said: I am neither a railway modeller nor particularly a railway enthusiast, although I will go a long way to see a steam locomotive in the flesh. But when I stumbled upon a YouTube video of an Accurascale Manor I simply had to have one. It was the sheer die cast quality - none of your plastic tat - the detail, the beauty of the paint schemes. So now I am the very pleased owner of ‘Fringford Manor’, which will live on my desk on a piece of Hornby-Dublo three-rail track, and towing a Hornby-Dublo tinplate Western Region coach, both of which came my way by chance. It will probably never run since I am useless at making anything, let alone a model railway. I know that will seem ridiculous to all you purists, but hey, it works for me! And I’m sure Fran of Accurascale will be please to have made another well-deserved sale! Nothing wrong with your approach! Didn’t Brunel say something to the effect that his Broad Gauge engines were so elegant that they would grace the finest dining room ? I bought two Accurascale Manors - one is in a glass display case … purely for display but I get pleasure from looking at it . The other is working engine . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 31 minutes ago, 1466 said: Didn’t Brunel say something to the effect that his Broad Gauge engines were so elegant that they would grace the finest dining room ? I imagine Mary Brunel had something to say about bringing that thing into her front room! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted February 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I imagine Mary Brunel had something to say about bringing that thing into her front room! I don't suppose the neighbours would have been overly impressed either. Adrian 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, figworthy said: I don't suppose the neighbours would have been overly impressed either. Adrian .... especially if it was used to brew the after-dinner coffee! CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, cctransuk said: .... especially if it was used to brew the after-dinner coffee! CJI. I can't understand why people have coffee so late in the evening, not if they want a good night's sleep, anyway...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 You could drink yourself sober with this Coffee. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 5 minutes ago, cctransuk said: .... especially if it was used to brew the after-dinner coffee! CJI. Didn’t he criticise the coffee at Swindon’s contractor’s catering place ? Along the lines “ Didn’t think you served coffee, just burnt corn “ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Captain Kernow said: I can't understand why people have coffee so late in the evening, not if they want a good night's sleep, anyway...! It is well-known that the Brunel family coffee was provided by Swindon Station cafeteria - which was so notoriously bad that no-one drank it. No disturbed nights in consequence! CJI. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Any news on another batch of these manors? Is it going to happen? Regards Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted February 20 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20 19 minutes ago, B15nac said: Any news on another batch of these manors? Is it going to happen? Regards Neil Not yet and yes. 3 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21 Can I request the Halls next please. 258 locomotives should give you a very steady income for years to come. And I can only imagine how perfect a Hogwarts Castle done to Accurascale standards would be lol 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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