Covkid Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 11 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: Problems with those fancy brakes again? Nice pair of skates... 10 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Dunno ..... shouldn't have been cold enough for them to freeze in the second half of April - even coming over the Fells. They worked well enough when I had my trip. BR staff "comfort tests" back in around 1986. Flying through Shap summit at 115 mph. It was quite literally awesome 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard 5374 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Have filled in the web form in a bit more detail but after seeing the Fireless announcement, why not announce something that hasn't been done in British outline RTR before - a British outline tamper*? I'd put a Plasser & Theurer 08-16 through as a choice to provide a range of models, liveries etc. * - Bachmann may have made one but it's a continental machine, sold as a OO model despite being HO and is vastly outdated. I've had two and sold one on, the other providing bogies for a OO Scale USP5000C 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 11/02/2024 at 04:20, Vanguard 5374 said: Have filled in the web form in a bit more detail but after seeing the Fireless announcement, why not announce something that hasn't been done in British outline RTR before - Pardon my ignorance but where is the web form ? After the excellent announcement of the "Caledonia" Fireless loco, and referring specifically to the Croda locomotive based at Four Ashes -I recall the location despatching the odd ferry tank of creosote. I don't have numbers nor photographs but the one shipment I recall was in two tanks with a "54" country registration code. How utterly fantastic would it be if Rapido were to launch a OO scale ferry tanks with end platform and handbrake. Something different from the tank wagons already produced, and useful as a typical BR 1970s trip working with just a couple of wagons and an optional brakevan. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard 5374 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, Covkid said: Pardon my ignorance but where is the web form ? On 09/02/2021 at 19:55, rapidoandy said: The page can be found at: www.rapidotrains.co.uk/product-suggestion 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, Vanguard 5374 said: Many thanks for that "Vanguard". Form submitted 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13 On 11/02/2024 at 04:20, Vanguard 5374 said: but after seeing the Fireless announcement, why not announce something that hasn't been done in British outline RTR before - a British outline tamper*? Did you mean to put “something else”? 😉 The problem with tampers is they might carry one or two liveries so people might buy one but rarely would they buy two or three while small industrials they do buy multiples, several on here have quoted buying 3 some rather more! Tampers are probably viable but I’d suspect with a rather hefty extra cost because they are so limited, unless tamper depots are the next MPD 😆 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think any manufacturer would really struggle to produce a proper working tamper in 00 scale - let alone convertible for EM & P4 - all those special DCC commands and tungsten carbide tines capable of breaking up compacted PVA glued ballast don't bear thinking about ! Otford : 5/7/97 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: I think any manufacturer would really struggle to produce a proper working tamper in 00 scale - let alone convertible for EM & P4 - all those special DCC commands and tungsten carbide tines capable of breaking up compacted PVA glued ballast don't bear thinking about ! Otford : 5/7/97 Slue? Slew, surely? CJI. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, cctransuk said: Slue? Slew, surely? CJI. Maybe if they had used Glew? (I agree, it should be Slew. But correct spelling seems optional these days. Don’t get me started on Withdrawl…) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 27 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Maybe if they had used Glew? (I agree, it should be Slew. But correct spelling seems optional these days. Don’t get me started on Withdrawl…) ... or withdrawral! CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13 34 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Slue? Slew, surely? CJI. Invariably slue in BR Civil Engineering speak. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I fear we're going to get a slew ( or slue ) of different spelling dislikes & corrections now ! 😁 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Oldddudders said: Invariably slue in BR Civil Engineering speak. Here we go - breakvan, shew ....... ! CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 It used to be Slew, back in the 1950s! A book which also contains much valuable advice about maintaining drainage that NR seems to have forgotten. But that belongs in another thread. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Invariably slue in BR Civil Engineering speak. Having done some (cursory) research online, slew seems to be the accepted UK form - though BR clearly prefer to disagree. (I wonder if this is a Swindonism)? CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: Maybe if they had used Glew? (I agree, it should be Slew. But correct spelling seems optional these days. Don’t get me started on Withdrawl…) Wotcher mean, these days? Victorian documentation seems to have been the worst for spelling, slu, sloo, slue, breaks/break van, is it a signal box or a signal cabin, why is a goods engine used for mixed traffic, what is a luggage engine? 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted February 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Invariably slue in BR Civil Engineering speak. It's those pesky Colonials again; coming here, and altering our words. You can't adjust the cant, or can you? Where's the center rail on the Central Line? can I catch a train to Cockfosters with my co-workers? I did a Marathon once, but nowadays it's Snickers.... I'm awaiting the word middel in Websters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Hi, Can I suggest a T3 as 563 has just returned to traffic at Swanage and created a lot of interest. Thanks Fred 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21 Can anyone post a link to where I can order the Frankie Howerd train pack as advertised.🤣 It will complement the Hornby Beatles wagons reviewed by Sam's Trains. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 13/02/2024 at 18:20, The Johnster said: Wotcher mean, these days? Victorian documentation seems to have been the worst for spelling, slu, sloo, slue, breaks/break van, is it a signal box or a signal cabin, why is a goods engine used for mixed traffic, what is a luggage engine? One that hauled luggage trains. Self explanatory really. Don't forget the Liverpool & Manchester was built for moving stuff and people from a port to another city (and vice versa). A lot of those businessmen had luggage with them from their journey and probably goods. Think large ocean going chests. Then how many chests each of those passengers are going to have for a Trans Atlantic journey that lasted weeks. If each train had a couple of hundred passengers that's an awful lot of chests. They needed engines that could pull those trains at similar speeds to the passenger engines. Hence the luggage engines. Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Hi, What about a Southern Railway L1 tender engine as the last model of one of these was 60 years ago I think. Fred 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 It'll be announced the day after I finish my Crownline one ! ☹️ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26 (edited) On 13/02/2024 at 18:20, The Johnster said: Wotcher mean, these days? Victorian documentation seems to have been the worst for spelling, slu, sloo, slue, breaks/break van, is it a signal box or a signal cabin, why is a goods engine used for mixed traffic, what is a luggage engine? On 21/02/2024 at 19:07, Steamport Southport said: One that hauled luggage trains. Self explanatory really. Don't forget the Liverpool & Manchester was built for moving stuff and people from a port to another city (and vice versa). A lot of those businessmen had luggage with them from their journey and probably goods. Think large ocean going chests. Then how many chests each of those passengers are going to have for a Trans Atlantic journey that lasted weeks. If each train had a couple of hundred passengers that's an awful lot of chests. They needed engines that could pull those trains at similar speeds to the passenger engines. Hence the luggage engines. Jason [1] Standardised spelling didn't really become a thing until a majority of the population became more than semi-literate, sometime in the latter half of Victoria's reign. Even surnames of related persons in Census records vary in the earlier portion, simply because one or more were illiterate and that's how the census taker heard it. If your brother in the next street was visited by somebody else, the spelling could easily get a different interpretation. [2] If luggage trains needed to be pulled at passenger train speeds, it would be logical to use passenger engines. The Liverpool and Manchester, as a pioneering railway, may well have so described an engine a few years old that had been superseded by the latest design from passenger traffic. The term would have gradually slipped from usage, as "intentional" mixed traffic locomotives came into use. However, "luggage engine" would have survived as long as the documents in which it appeared remained in use. John Edited March 26 by Dunsignalling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26 Luggage engine referred to a goods engine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted March 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: [1] Standardised spelling doesn't really become a thing until a majority of the population become more than semi-literate, sometime in the latter half of Victoria's reign. Victoria II? 😇 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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