KR Models to make SR Class 4DD

[Porkscratching]

Nice to see it modelled as a rtr, even if there's been some argy-bargy about the details. 

I remember being fascinated by these as a kid, I used to see them rattle past occasionally on the Dartford to Charing Cross (via Sidcup) line. Unfortunately I never got to go in one ! 

[Nconsistent]

The latest image does look closer to the real thing, though the 'fat' prysmatic windows are unlikely to capture the flush glazing of the original. Despite that, I will almost certainly go for one having travelled to school on it right up to its final days and repeatedly called for it on wishlists. I am not sure I can cope with the expense and storage of a prototypical pair, though. And I await the final overall height with a nervous eye on some of my shallower tunnel and bridge clearances.      

[Southernman46]

Be good to see the blue decorated version - Looks close enough although I think the headcode panel needs raising as a whole just a wee bit to make it level with the top of the front windows - I'm definately having one ........................ cos I came from an era when a Manufacturer would try a convince people this was a Class 37 ..................

 

 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Southernman46
Too tired to explain why

[melmoth]

1 hour ago, Southernman46 said:

Be good to see the blue decorated version - Looks close enough although I think the headcode panel needs raising as a whole just a wee bit to make it level with the top of the front windows - I'm definately having one ........................ cos I came from an era when a Manufacturer would try a convince people this was a Class 37 ..................

 

 

 

It was first produced almost 60 years ago and is recognisably at Class 37 (as opposed, say, to a Deltic, Class 40, or Baby Deltic). I'm not sure what your point is.

[Colin_McLeod]

2 hours ago, Nconsistent said:

I am not sure I can cope with the expense and storage of a prototypical pair,

 

My reading of the KR Models web page is that they are sold as a four car set.  Unless you meant all eight vehicles coupled together.

 

"We will be producing both running numbers as 4 car packs. There will be 2 power cars,..."

[Michael Hodgson]

53 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said:

 

"We will be producing both running numbers as 4 car packs. There will be 2 power cars,..."

Too heavy for one power car to cope perhaps - is it a motor bogie or are both bogies driven?

[Southernman46]

1 hour ago, melmoth said:

 

It was first produced almost 60 years ago and is recognisably at Class 37 (as opposed, say, to a Deltic, Class 40, or Baby Deltic). I'm not sure what your point is.

My point was I don't mind a few errors as in the past when I first started playing with trains we to had to use slightly more imagination - not quite as accurate as the norm we get today 🙄 Don't be too literal about trying to understand it please

Never mind

Edited October 16, 2023 by Southernman46
Context

[Oldddudders]

2 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said:

 

My reading of the KR Models web page is that they are sold as a four car set.  Unless you meant all eight vehicles coupled together.

 

"We will be producing both running numbers as 4 car packs. There will be 2 power cars,..."

They seldom ran as 4-cars. The whole point was their extra capacity in the peak. 

[wainwright1]

They certainly seem to have captured the correct window into roof profile and I think they have also corrected the cab window shape. Looking forward to receiving my ordered model.

I had an uncle and aunt who lived in Lewisham and had a house that backed onto the line there. I often saw these sets run past the back of their house, but never had a ride on one.

 

Ray

Edited October 16, 2023 by wainwright1

[cctransuk]

Just now, wainwright1 said:

They certainly seem to have captured the correct window into roof profile and I think they have also corrected the cab window shape.

 

If that is the case, it's a first - and one to be celebrated!

 

Maybe there is life after the 'Fell'?

 

CJI.

[Nconsistent]

The latest image does look closer to the real thing, though the 'fat' prysmatic windows are unlikely to capture the flush glazing of the original. Despite that, I will almost certainly go for one having commuted on it right up to its final days and repeatedly called for it on wishlists. I am not sure I can cope with the expense and storage of a prototypical pair, though. And I await the final overall height with a nervous eye on some of my shallower tunnel and bridge clearances.      

[The Stationmaster]

It could be the angle of the photo but the roof looks to be a continuous curve at a constant radius - which it wasn't on the real thing.

[96701]

It looked very good in the flesh at GETS. A bit shiny in my view, but still looked great.

[Fishplate]

We've moved house. I have tried to contact KRModels via email and their 'Contact Us' page on their website so our new address can be added to my order for the 4DD. I am reluctant to phone the Canadian telephone number for obvious reasons. Given they have had a presence at UK exhibitions with people that don't have a Canadian accent, I presume they have a UK base.

 

There latest full page advert in BRM also doesn't have a contact number.

 

I've tried phoning one of the big model shops but they don't want to give out a number. Any idea how to get in touch? 

 

I must say it is a bit off-putting having parted with so much money and now not able to make a simple phone call, or have the courtesy of a response after several weeks. All the other places I deal with it has been a really simple process to update my information.

[cctransuk]

10 minutes ago, Fishplate said:

We've moved house. I have tried to contact KRModels via email and their 'Contact Us' page on their website so our new address can be added to my order for the 4DD. I am reluctant to phone the Canadian telephone number for obvious reasons. Given they have had a presence at UK exhibitions with people that don't have a Canadian accent, I presume they have a UK base.

 

There latest full page advert in BRM also doesn't have a contact number.

 

I've tried phoning one of the big model shops but they don't want to give out a number. Any idea how to get in touch? 

 

I must say it is a bit off-putting having parted with so much money and now not able to make a simple phone call, or have the courtesy of a response after several weeks. All the other places I deal with it has been a really simple process to update my information.

 

Symptomatic of their entire approach to business - give us yer money and don't be a nuisance!

 

CJI.

[Legend]

14 minutes ago, Fishplate said:

We've moved house. I have tried to contact KRModels via email and their 'Contact Us' page on their website so our new address can be added to my order for the 4DD. I am reluctant to phone the Canadian telephone number for obvious reasons. Given they have had a presence at UK exhibitions with people that don't have a Canadian accent, I presume they have a UK base.

 

There latest full page advert in BRM also doesn't have a contact number.

 

I've tried phoning one of the big model shops but they don't want to give out a number. Any idea how to get in touch? 

 

I must say it is a bit off-putting having parted with so much money and now not able to make a simple phone call, or have the courtesy of a response after several weeks. All the other places I deal with it has been a really simple process to update my information.

 

I fully understand , but its not unusual . Have you tried getting someone human in the bank or your gas supplier these days ?

 

Aren't they on Facebook you might get contact that way .  Failing that that direct mailing Jenny Emily on here , I know she has done repairs for them and maybe able to forward details . 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Legend

[Darius43]

From what I can gather from reading KR Models threads, they communicate primarily through Facebook/Meta rather than through conventional business methods.   Not much use if you are not on Facebook/Meta.

 

For this and other reasons I have placed any KR Models orders that I have with a “conventional” retailer based in cutlery related city.

 

I get the impression that KR Models has grown beyond its means as a company and is struggling with communication.  They also don’t seem to deal well with conflict or problems - but there are much larger companies with the same affliction.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

Edited November 21, 2023 by Darius43

[No Decorum]

49 minutes ago, Fishplate said:

We've moved house. I have tried to contact KRModels via email and their 'Contact Us' page on their website so our new address can be added to my order for the 4DD. I am reluctant to phone the Canadian telephone number for obvious reasons. Given they have had a presence at UK exhibitions with people that don't have a Canadian accent, I presume they have a UK base.

 

There latest full page advert in BRM also doesn't have a contact number.

 

I've tried phoning one of the big model shops but they don't want to give out a number. Any idea how to get in touch? 

 

I must say it is a bit off-putting having parted with so much money and now not able to make a simple phone call, or have the courtesy of a response after several weeks. All the other places I deal with it has been a really simple process to update my information.

I believe Michael, the son, is UK based. You might like to try this e-mail address: michael@krmodels.co.uk

[Colin_McLeod]

On 21/11/2023 at 08:44, Darius43 said:

Not much use if you are not on Facebook/Meta.

 

 

Easily solved.

[JSpencer]

Latest news letter says Q1 2024 for delivery. The same as the leader. And maybe Q2 in practice.

[Southernman46]

Could someone get some good photos of the 4DD if on display at Warley please 👍

[Trofimow]

It is on display together with br black leader and looking quite nice. The leader does now have BFB pattern wheels.

[Bluebell Model Railway]

21 hours ago, Trofimow said:

It is on display together with br black leader and looking quite nice. The leader does now have BFB pattern wheels.

Thanks for the information on the wheel pattern, I made a comment on their FB page regarding this, along with an image of one that had fallen off lol 😅

[Fishplate]

On 21/11/2023 at 09:18, No Decorum said:

I believe Michael, the son, is UK based. You might like to try this e-mail address: michael@krmodels.co.uk

 

Thanks @No Decorum . Email dispatched today. With delivery now advertised as Q1 2024, I don't want a 4DD going to my old address. . . . Its nearly eight weeks since I first emailed them 🤔

[Southernman46]

On 24/11/2023 at 10:54, Southernman46 said:

Could someone get some good photos of the 4DD if on display at Warley please 👍

Bump