wainwright1 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 The window into roof shape looks reasonable now and I think that the cab windows are about right as well. The lighting is not good, but I do not think that the shade of green is too far off. Some more pictures would be helpful. Hope that they can get this out for the end of the year. It will make a very nice Christmas present. Keep up the good work KR. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2023 Messing around with levels gives this. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, wainwright1 said: Hope that they can get this out for the end of the year. It will make a very nice Christmas present. According to their website, the Availability is "In stock (can be backordered)" On the other hand they must be using a very slow courier service as it also says "Estimated delivery 1st Qtr 2024" PS Pricing is just as confusing : "Bulleid 4DD EMU GBP£312.50 – GBP£395.83" at the top of the page, whilst at the bottom of the same page "Priced at £375 DCC Ready, £405 DCC Fitted, £475 DCC Sound" Edited August 22, 2023 by Michael Hodgson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, miles73128 said: Update on Facebook! Hi, How can this be a decorated sample with no coach numbering, lettering or BR Emblems? It still looks like an engineering prototype that just happens to be have been produced in a shade of green vaguely near to Southern green? At best it is a paint sample... Simon Edited August 22, 2023 by St. Simon 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 29 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: Pricing is just as confusing : "Bulleid 4DD EMU GBP£312.50 – GBP£395.83" at the top of the page, whilst at the bottom of the same page "Priced at £375 DCC Ready, £405 DCC Fitted, £475 DCC Sound" Those look like the prices with and without VAT. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HExpressD Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, St. Simon said: Hi, How can this be a decorated sample with no coach numbering, lettering or BR Emblems? It still looks like an engineering prototype that just happens to be have been produced in a shade of green vaguely near to Southern green? At best it is a paint sample... Simon Because it is a sample, which has been decorated. It might not be fully decorated, but the first decorated sample tends to just be the base colour, once that is refined a model can be sprayed that colour and then have the decals printed on it for the second decorated sample. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, HExpressD said: Because it is a sample, which has been decorated. It might not be fully decorated, but the first decorated sample tends to just be the base colour, once that is refined a model can be sprayed that colour and then have the decals printed on it for the second decorated sample. Yes, but generally, models manufactures use the term decorated sample with the consumer to show a product with all it's decoration, not just a paint sample, I can't think of many manufactures that show just a painted sample (other than after the fully decorated ones to confirm a colour has been corrected). Internally within a company the term 'decorated sample' maybe used for a number of samples within the decoration process, but the convention seems to be that the 'public' 'decorated sample' is one that has full decoration. I would say this is a painted sample, rather than a decorated sample, at least in publicity terms. Plus the post indicates that the only thing needs changing before full production is the colour, doesn't say anything about a second sample to confirm lettering / numbering. Simon Edited August 22, 2023 by St. Simon 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 When I questioned the lack of central grey roof panel I got the response "yes, it's not the full decorated sample" 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2023 I think we all know that KR's communication skills aren't the best. We can argue over whether it should be called a decorated sample or a painted sample but ultimately the model is showing progress and appears to have addressed one of the concerns with earlier samples. Which is positive and to be welcomed. 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, St. Simon said: Yes, but generally, models manufactures use the term decorated sample with the consumer to show a product with all it's decoration, not just a paint sample, I can't think of many manufactures that show just a painted sample (other than after the fully decorated ones to confirm a colour has been corrected). ive learned that KR is no “general” model company. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Despite not being interested in stabiliser rail units, or freak one-offs, I have to say the units do look very good even if the green is too dark (apparently). For those who like such things, with luck it might tempt the firm into making some other Bullied units like the SUB and the Bullied style HAP and EPB if this is well received. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 Whilst this is not a yes from me, it isn’t a no yet either. I really hope that when we get some better shots I am persuaded to part with some money. It does show some potential. Roy 2 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Pre Grouping fan said: When I questioned the lack of central grey roof panel I got the response "yes, it's not the full decorated sample" So, not quite as ready for production as their post implied… 🤦♂️🤦♂️ Simon 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted August 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Post deleted Edited August 23, 2023 by Darius43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted August 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2023 I am advised that KR Models will be fitting the LokPilot decoder to this model. I am trying to Ddecide whether to go with this or whether to get DCC ready and fit something else. Has anyone any thoughts on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted August 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said: I am advised that KR Models will be fitting the LokPilot decoder to this model. I am trying to Ddecide whether to go with this or whether to get DCC ready and fit something else. Has anyone any thoughts on this? All about personal preference. I like the LokPilot/LokSound, others prefer Zimo. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 As someone who is not particularly well-versed in DCC, the few times I've looked into 'chipping' a loco, I've usually seen ESU LokSound chips recommended. Contrarily, I have seen very recent reports (from the Rapido N scale Class 28 thread) that current production chips are suffering from quality-control issues. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomer1979 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 23/08/2023 at 14:22, Colin_McLeod said: I am advised that KR Models will be fitting the LokPilot decoder to this model. I am trying to Ddecide whether to go with this or whether to get DCC ready and fit something else. Has anyone any thoughts on this? Not in the market for this model, but in terms of DCC chips, for fine motor control, Zimo wins hands down straight out the box. The ESU needs a bit of work to get smooth take offs. To my mind early EMUs tended to be quite jerky with their acceleration, so an ESU would be fine. I have them in my Class 303s but have Zimos in my Blue Pullman and PWM 165. Neil. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) Found this earlier, hope this link works - sorry if it has already been posted. https://www.bbc.co.uk › zhmrvk7 Edited September 24, 2023 by Martin_R Problems with link.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 think this link might work better. Double deck trains film 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike Harvey said: think this link might work better. Double deck trains film Just look at the number of uniformed platform staff that train needed (around the 49 seconds mark) ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted September 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Michael Hodgson said: Just look at the number of uniformed platform staff that train needed (around the 49 seconds mark) ! It was the first demonstration run and everyone had turned out to see it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 24/09/2023 at 16:40, Mike Harvey said: think this link might work better. Double deck trains film Thanks for putting up that link, I do have issues at times with my internet links 🤬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil Parker Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 A couple of photos grabbed at GETS yesterday of the latest sample: Sorry the quality isn't great - a bit of a smash & grab at the very end of the show! 18 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Windows look pretty good to me. 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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