emt_911 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Do you get discount for buying 50kg bags of it? Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) You're going to need a sackfull of static grass Jeff I'm hoping to genetically engineer the stuff so it germinates in plaster! Too bl**dy right, Jason. I think I'll take out shares in Noch and Silflor! Do you get discount for buying 50kg bags of it? Duncan You do, Duncan. They're so cheap that I think you should buy me a bag for my birthday!! Seriously worried grass-growing Lunester Edited February 7, 2013 by Physicsman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Evening Jeff, 160 pages PLUS the Lounge, TWO GREAT THEADS well done, how do you keep up with it all and BUILD MOUNTAINS? SORTED OUT YOUR GRASS PROBLEM use real turf and then you can have the smell as well Well mown Lunester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I like the way the viaduct is lost in the scenery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2013 I like the way the viaduct is lost in the scenery. Yes Peter, it seems to be disappearing amongst the natural "grandeur". If I can maintain that illusion I'll be pleased. The wonderful valley (I refer to the real thing, not my model) should dominate, with the railway a mere conduit passing through. If I can make it look like the railway went through the scenery, rather than the scenery grew around the railway, I'll have succeeded in my aim. I remember you once commenting that the viaduct characterised how you saw the S&C. I hope what I end up with is a fair representation of the "character". Keep me posted on how I'm doing - it's the feedback that can only improve matters. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 You're going to need a sackfull of static grass Jeff I think he's going to buy a couple of Chia Pets and let it take care of itself... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 use real turf and then you can have the smell as well Can't wait to see the working scale lawn mower Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2013 I notice that the humour isn't getting any better on here! I think you should club together to create a charity: "Lunester Aid". Proceeds to buy the 200kg of flock and static grass needed for KL.... Hey, it's a scary prospect - I may have to turn the valley into a volcanic landscape to save money!! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Jeff You forgot the sheep and materials for the dry stone walls to be bought by the charity. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I second Peter - even without the plaster coating in the valley, the scenery is looking really good. I like the long run of hillside without even a single sleeper in view! The view across the station does beg a question though - are you going to try and make sure that where ever you stand to watch the trains go by, you will see only scenery, and not the hole in the middle of the layout? I don't think you'll need that much static grass, it's the static heather and scrub that will break the bank... Finally got on my lazy ass this evening and actually did some modelling - watch out for an update shortly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2013 Thanks Michael. You and Peter are my 2 main scenic gurus, so I'm happy with your comments. Below is an old (last week!!) photo - showing my intent on the station side at the valley head. Feel free to comment - it's only an idea at the moment (though the cutting is based on this link: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3166/3020789242_034d1a4e14_z.jpg?zz=1) Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 7, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2013 I think your hardest job scenically (Is that a word?) after Lunefell is going to be getting the station to sit in the site without it looking as though you've just ploncked it in. Theres not much space left around the yard etc for much heavy plywood engineering, so have you any thoughts yet? BTW that expanse of fell is seriously impressive and the way the railway is lost is a masterstroke! No train running yet? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 8, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 You mean like this, Andy: Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 The plan looks good Jeff - I wonder if the small hillock should extend down the side of the station - as if you come out the tunnel, over the viaduct then cut through the hillside into the next valley to reach the station... Not sure how much space you have on the yard side, but if the ground falls away from the station, that might look quite good. Would depend on where you'd want to stand to operate / watch the trains go by... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 Yes, but how are you going to blend it into the landscape? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 The plan looks good Jeff - I wonder if the small hillock should extend down the side of the station - as if you come out the tunnel, over the viaduct then cut through the hillside into the next valley to reach the station... Not sure how much space you have on the yard side, but if the ground falls away from the station, that might look quite good. Would depend on where you'd want to stand to operate / watch the trains go by... I bit like Dent Station then? That would give a good feeling that it is valleyside, and not in some sort of artifical plateau. Will you be able to get the start of a hill to the wall side of the road? Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I think your hardest job scenically (Is that a word?) after Lunefell is going to be getting the station to sit in the site without it looking as though you've just ploncked it in. Theres not much space left around the yard etc for much heavy plywood engineering, so have you any thoughts yet? Jeff Having had a close look I have to admit that I concur with Andy about the station. It's probably going to take more thought and work than the rest of the scenics. However, no doubt you already have a plan up your sleeve. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Aaaaaaaaagh!! You both replied before I could post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted February 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 Can't wait to see the working scale lawn mower Duncan They're called 'sheep', Duncan. Baaaahhh. Luney Bo Peep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 Scale working sheep, wow that is modelling, genetic modelling! Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 8, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 Sorry - took me a while to draw this: It's a work in progress, so we'll see how it goes... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 8, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 This link shows the environs of Kirkby Stephen's 2 platforms. http://www.visitcumbria.com/simon/kirkbystephen-8036.jpg I'd better not post the picture as some copyright holder will jump down my throat! Reverse the photo and you have KL, with fields behind platform 2 - along with trees. These would look nice between the operating well and the platform. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 8, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) And so we reach post 4000. As good a place as any to put another copy of the Index. Bit more memorable than post 3035!! INDEX The thread is getting HUGE. I thought it might be useful to provide a quick way to find some of the main MODELLING bits. Hope this helps. Pages 1 - 3 Posts 1 - 64 Garage conversion / outline layout plans http://www.rmweb.co....-new-year/page-1 Pages 3 - 6 Post 65 on Subframe build, June 2012 http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-3? Page 7 Marcway templates and Baseboard tops cut http://www.rmweb.co....new-year/page-7 Page 9 Post 206/209 Mods to plan for curved viaduct idea http://www.rmweb.co....new-year/page-9 Pages 9/10 Post 224 on Curved viaduct construction starts http://www.rmweb.co....new-year/page-9 Page 11 251 on Drawing out fascias on MDF http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-11 Page 12 293 Filling-in piers with polyfilla http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-12 Page 14 347 on Branch viaduct starts http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-14 Page 16 399 on First Slaters dressed stone applied http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-16 Page 18 436 Arch rings http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-18 Page 21 519 Painting of main viaduct starts (August 2012) http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-21 Page 22 536/537 Completed paintwork on Main http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-22 Page 27 669 on Cork on boards/SMP and Marcway on top (loose) (Mid-Sept 2012) http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-27 Page 29 723 - 743 ORIGINAL (Peco) fiddle yard planning on paper http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-29 Page 32 792 Mods to Marcway turnouts (start October 2012) http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-32 Page 33 813 First Risers fitted http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-33 Page 34 834 on Decision to scrap Branch viaduct http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-34 Page 35 860 on Discussions on Branch line mods http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-35 Page 36 890 Almost definitive trackplan (Anyrail, drawn using Peco track) http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-36 Page 37 922/923 Final baseboard onto Risers (early October) http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-37 Page 42 1026 on Tracklaying starts/start to fit Cobalts http://www.rmweb.co....ew-year/page-42 Pages 49/50 Tracklaying features: Britannia on the line (1210) / Trailing crossover (1249) / Station area and crossover (1250) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53448-kirkby-luneside-fiddle-yard-complete/page-49 Page 51 251/1261/1274 Tracklaying: Main station area / trailing crossover / SMP + Cobalt choice for Fiddle Yard http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53448-kirkby-luneside-fiddle-yard-complete/page-51 Page 52 1276 Tracklaying: Line-clearance discussion http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-52 Page 53 1305 Tracklaying: Expansion of Nickel-Silver track http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-53 Page 53 1319 [Jubilee on viaduct photo] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-53 Page 55 1362 [Peak on viaduct photos] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-55 Page 56 1403/1408 Tracklaying: Line-clearance and curvature measures http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-56 Page 58 1436 Control panel for Cobalts - start of construction http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-58 Page 61 1514 Control panel to Cobalt DC supply wiring http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-61 Page 62 1535 First Cobalt wiring to turnouts http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-62 Page 62 1549 [Train allocations: Holbeck A3 1960 (rob94)] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-62 Page 63 1559 [Train allocations: Holbeck steam 1964 (WSunset)] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-63 Pages 63 on 1554/1610/1632/1676/1709 Fiddle yard construction and photos http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-63 Page 69 1701 Discussion of weathering/airbrushes http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-69 Page 71 1761 [Train allocations: Kingmoor steam 1964 (WSunset)] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-71 Page 72 1782 Rationale behind subframe-riser-baseboard arrangement http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-72 Page 72 1798 Blea Moor North tunnel portal choice http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-72 Page 75 1874 Blea Moor portal initial measurements http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-75 Page 81 2001 [Mike - The Stationmaster riding his "Castle"] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-81 Pages 83/84 2065/2095 Tracklaying: More Fiddle Yard work http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-83 Page 86 2148 Tracklaying: Underboard dropper wiring - tidying up http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-86 Page 86 2149 Tracklaying: Wiring Electrofrogs http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-86 Page 87 2152 [Jason - Copydex ballasting technique] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-87 Page 88 2193 Cobalt-turnout connection query (Figworthy) http://www.rmweb.co....plete/page-88?? Page 89 2205 [Andrew P - Club photos] http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-89 Page 91 2267 Control panel - completion http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-91 Page 91 2275 Control panel: linked crossover question (see also 1441 on) http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-91 Page 94 2332 Tunnel Portal: Start of construction (Dec 2012) http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-94 Page 95 2356/2362/2363 Tunnel portal: marking/cutting ply, arch rings, side piers http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-95 Page 96 2377/2385 Tunnel portal: Side wings / Basic structure - portal + wings http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-96 Pages 97 to 100 Tunnel portal: Water "steps": See posts 2412 / 2428 / 2471 / 2484 / 2497 http://www.rmweb.co....omplete/page-97 Pages 101/102 2523/2535 Tunnel portal: More Slaters added http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-101 Page 103 2563 [Al's (Schubert) Lunester name is suggested] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-103 Page 108 2676 [bill's (Mythocentric) Lunester badge artistry] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-108 Page 114 2836 [8F on the viaduct] (Jan 2013) http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-114 Page 119 2952 Tracklaying: Branchline-to-fiddle yard completed http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-119 Page 125 3120 [blea Moor north portal: 1966 and recent] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-125 Page 126 3130 [steam on the S&C: unravelled's b&w photos] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-126 Page 126 3135 Tracklaying: Whole-bunker views, Jan 14, 2013 http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-126 Page 127 3173 [K.Stephen station and KS West model re. road underbridge] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-127 Page 127/128 3174 on Discussion of dry stone walls (3174/3175/3179) http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-127 Page 130 3242/3330 [S&C Train Coach Formations 1930-1960 (uax6)] http://www.rmweb.co....fitted/page-130 Page 132 3293 Track Bus fitting starts http://www.rmweb.co....fitted/page-132 Page 133 3317 Use of small shunter for DCC testing query (billyb_imp) http://www.rmweb.co....fitted/page-133 Page 134 3328 Track Bus: fitting of main bus wires completed http://www.rmweb.co....fitted/page-134 Page 135/136 3372/3376 Valley-floor formers: building commences http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-135 Page 136 3378 on Discussion of steepness of valley walls etc. http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-136 Page 136 3385 River level variation suggestion (uax6) http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-136 Page 136/137 3400/3424 Valley incl. centre formers with river channel http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-136 Page 137/138 3410/3439 [Viaduct/stream photos/paintings (jukebox/ChrisN)] http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-137 Page 138 3434 on Embankment discussion http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-138 Page 139 3460/3462 "Thick" Jeff finally understands!! http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-139 Page 139 3474 [Arten Gill viaduct prototype (MichaelW)] http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-139 Page 140 3481 [s&C viaducts link (Polly)] http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-140 Page 140 3482 [Dent Head viaduct and packhorse bridge link (Jason)] http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-140 Page 142 3550 Main hillside construction and modified valley formers (end Jan 2013) http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-142 Pages 143/144 3553/3557/3586 Further pics of hillside/valley... http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-143 Page 147 3652/3657 Hillside: Top extensions and first mod-roc http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-147 Page 148 3678/3679 [s&C scenic photo links] http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-148 Page 149 3715 The bunker: wider angle perspecives http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-149 Page 150 3743 [Jason's Lunester Layout Tag idea] http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-150 Page 152/153 3785/3791/3813 Tunnel portal hill-section and portal position (Feb 2013) http://www.rmweb.co....derway/page-152 Page 155 3855 Tunnel portal section with plaster coating http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-155 Page 155 3874 [scott(jukebox)'s Model Rail KL "spoof"] http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-155 Page 157 3907 First backscene board fitted behind "Lune Fell" http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-157 Page 157 3919 on Backscene discussion http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-157 Page 158 3926 [scott (jukebox): link to CMX track cleaner] http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-158 Page 159 3959 [Jeff's idea to create the "Lunester Lounge"] http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-159 LuneLounge 20 [Jason's classic post - PLEASE READ!!] http://www.rmweb.co....r-lounge/page-1 Page 160 - 162 3988 on Viaduct-station scenic planning discussions http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-160 Page 160 4000 Copy of main INDEX http://www.rmweb.co....eering/page-160 Page 163 4075 Corner backscene board fitted http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-163 Page 164 4091 on Cutting construction Mark 1 http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-164 Page 165/166 4101/4138/4142 "Contour"-aided discussion of valley design http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-165 Page 166/167 4146/4154/4174 Cutting construction Mark 2 http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-166 Page 168 4192 [scott's photo of RJ's 24-arch R'head] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-168 Page 169 4203/4214/4215 Work on embankment former/hillock http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-169 Page 170 4217 First loco running on KL (17.34, Friday, Feb 15) http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-170 Page 171 4269 on [Class 28 discussion] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-171 Page 172 4288 First track-bus wiring photos http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-172 Page 174 4345 [Holbeck Steam allocation 1960 (Peter)] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-174 Page 174 4349 [Kingmoor Steam allocation 1960 (Peter)] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-174 Page 175 4363 [Lord Lunester photo plus locos (Al)] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-175 Page 176 4390 9F crosses the viaduct under power http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-176 Page 177 4407 [Video of 9F running in the fiddle yard (Al)] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-177 Page 177 4410/4415 Derailment problem on curved turnouts and solution http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-177 Page 178 4439 [Possible coach arrangements (Peter)] http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-178 Page 179 4454...4473 Discussion of polarity wiring on Cobalts/"short" test http://www.rmweb.co....llocks/page-179 Page 180 4498 More (up-to-date) dropper-bus photos http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-180 Page 181 4524 Video of 9F and coaches crossing the viaduct [Al] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-181 Page 184 0n 4582/4639 [Demolition of old layout] http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-184 Page 186 4631 First complete circuit (9F, Up line, 27/2/13) http://www.rmweb.co....mplete/page-186 Page 190 4726 [AndyP's photos of Kirkby Stephen West] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-190 Page 190 4741 DCC/DC Wiring discussion http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-190Page 193/194 4812/23/27/30 Removable valley floor section built http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-193Page 196 4891 Left-hand valley side with mod-roc http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-196 Page 197 4902 [Al's video of the J39 and freight] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-197 Page 198 4947 Plastering stream-bed commences http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-198 Page 202 5034 Plastering far end stream-bed/LH valley sides http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-202 Page 202 5046 [scott: Stream meanderings - options] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-202 Page 203 5054 [Jim: Sheep-shelter link] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-203 Page 203 on 5075 on ["Mankinigate"] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-203 Page 207 5157 Lune Fell fascia fitted... http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-207 Page 208 5186 Fascia and part brown emulsion covering on LF http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-208 Lune Lounge 955 [Discussion of grass/h.basket liner etc.] http://www.rmweb.co....-lounge/page-39 Page 209 5205 [Further Arten Fell scenic photos] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-209 Page 209 5217 [Exhibition "grass" photos (AndyP)] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-209 Page 210 5247/5249 Further fascia panelling http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-210 Page 211 5262 Proposed plan for area in front of station http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-211 Page 212 5293 Embankment work on viaduct starts http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-212 Page 213 5311/5314/5326 [s&C photos incl. Blea Moor air-shaft (Simon/KK)] http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-213 Page 215/217 5355/5381/5407 Further viaduct work (incl. Lune Fell views from viaduct) http://www.rmweb.co....valley/page-215 Page 218 5432/5535 on Final Lune Fell section, VERSION 1 http://www.rmweb.co....ered/page-218?? Page 220/221 5494 on [Kadee and uncoupler discussion] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-220 Page 223 5551/5566 Final Lune Fell section, VERSION 2 http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-223 Page 223 5562 [Tupdale/Chee Tor pics: Scott] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-223 Page 224 5577 Backscene discussion: Ingleborough... http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-224 Page 224 5591/5599 Overbridge + cutting discussion http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-224 Page 225 5606/5610 [steve/Duncan: Aqueduct Force Gill reference] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-225 Page 225 5612/5616 Jeff's Aqueduct mock-up planning http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-225 Page 225 5620 [Jam's Force gill photos] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-225 Page 226 5640 [Rob McG Index] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-226 Page 227 5669/5670 Final Lune Fell VERSION 3: formers for CUTTING http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-227 Page 227/228 5674/5676 [Andy P: More club layout pics] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-227 Page 228 5690 Prototype S&C cutting rock photo link http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-228 Page 228 5697 Links to S&C aqueduct pics http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-228 Page 229 5712 on Cutting progress... http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-229 Page 230 5744 Cutting situation as Jeff runs out of plaster/KK's "polar bear face" http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-230 Page 231 5752 Main working image for aqueduct area http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-231 Page 231 5755 Links to S&C bridges and main working double-track image http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-231 Page 232 5783 [Mike's wall-moulding info and photos] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-232 Page 233 5813 / 5815 Discussion of bridge/aqueduct width http://www.rmweb.co....tered/page-233? Page 234 5841 Preliminary plan of main-line bridge fascia http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-234 Page 235 5852/5855/5865 Card-testing bridge-portal clearances (Mk 1 coaches) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-235 Page 236 5882 Final main-line bridge fascia design http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-236 Page 236 5897/5898 Bridge-building commences http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-236 Page 237 5909/5913 Dressed-stone onto bridge http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-237 Page 237 5917 Bridge with road deck: test with cl40/45 http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-237 Page 238 5939 [Gargrave station bridge: Simon (KK)] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-238 Page 239 5968 Model filler to join dressed-stone sections http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-239 Page 240/241 5986/600 Bridge fascias joined/plastikard on innards... http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-240 Page 241 6019 on Discussion of skewed-brick arch liner http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-241 Page 242 6036 Copings fitted and card (test) arch liner http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-242 Page 243 6070/6071 Skewed red-brick arch liner fitted (April 24) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-243 Page 243 6074 Rock-face casting starts (for cuttings) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-243 Page 245 6119 Main line bridge and branch bridge skeleton compared http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-245 Page 247 6154/6168/6171 Photos of progress on branch bridge http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-247 Page 248 6179 on [Grosmont (NYMR) photos and discussion] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-248 Page 250 6240/6241/6242 Main and branch bridges tested for position in the bunker (May 7) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-250 Page 254 6343/6344 Walling jig and method http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-254 Page 255 6366/6371 [Jubilee pics (Galatea, maroon), Simon KK] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-255 Page 256 6387/6388 First attempt at stone wall building (May 15) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-256 Page 257 6424 Stone walling including grey acrylic mixed with PVA http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-257 Page 258 6445/6446 Aqueduct construction starts (Method 1 - scrapped) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-258 Page 259 6464/6465 Aqueduct construction - modified Method 2 incl. bridge embedding http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-259 Page 260 6481 [More Jubilee pics, Andy (uax6)] http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-260 Page 260 6485 Lakeland stone wall links http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-260 Page 261 6511/6517 Jeff's Splodge technique for rapid rock painting http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-261 Page 262 6527/6527 Bridges/aqueduct sections in modified cuttings (May 21) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-262 Page 262 6534 Cross-sectional plan of bridge-aqueduct arrangement http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-262 Page 262 6541 Further ballasting discussion re. cuttings etc. http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-262 Page 263 6575 Wing-wall fitting commences http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-263Page 264 6592/6593 Weathered Britannias / Black 5 http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-264Page 265 6603/6614 Bridges complete with wing walls http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-265Page 267 6653/6656 Bridges painted/weathered http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-267Page 267 6673/6674 Bridges sat in position in bunker http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-267Page 268 6695/6699 Rocks fitted in cutting - ATTEMPT 1 http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-268Page 269 6723 Rock cutting appearance: Scott.... important! http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-269Page 270 6749/6750/6776 Rock fitting - ATTEMPT 2 http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-270Page 272 6794/6799 Definitive rock faces (ATTEMPT 3) (June 4) http://www.rmweb.co....stered/page-272 Page 273 6819/6822 More cutting/bridge-placement photos http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-273 Page 276 6882/6883 Fell stone-walling begins (June 9) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-276 Page 277 6910/6911/6921 First stone wall complete / arty view of cutting rock wall http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-277 Page 277 6920 TMC-weathered 9F http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-277 Page 281 7022 [Lakeland stone wall stiles (Chip)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-281 Page 282 7034 Near-cutting stone wall complete to backscene http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-282 Page 283 7068 Bachmann 9F trio http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-283 Page 284 7089 [Extremely weathered WD Austerity (unravelled)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-284 Page 288 7183 [Jeff aka Reg Varney (Scott)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-288 Page 288 7198/7204 Fell walling including stile (July 2) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-288 Page 289 7219 on Copydex ballasting trial http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-289 Page 290 7246/7262 2mm Fine ballast onto neat PVA trials http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-290 Page 294 7338/7339/7340 Preparation for start of cutting ballasting (July 11) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-294 Page 294 7348 WS Fine grey blend applied to Branch cutting http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-294 Page 296 7400 9F and Brit locos on the viaduct http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-296 Page 297 7401 Patriot and Jubilee locos on the viaduct http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-297 Page 298 7431 Cess and 6' ballasted on the cutting http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-298 Page 298 7438 Black 5 locos in/near the main line cutting http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-298 Page 299 7468 Viaduct ballasting commences - sleeper grime http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-299 Page 300 7481/90/94/7501 Viaduct ballasting and technique http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-300 Page 303 7558/7565 Viaduct cess ballasting using Carrs 2mm http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-303 Page 304 7583/84/98 Turnout ballasting http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-304 Page 305 7602 Viaduct/turnouts after second ballast layer (July 26) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-305 Page 306 7644/7645 TMC weathered 9F and WD http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-306 Page 307 7665/7666 Deeper ballasted viaduct with WD http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-307 Page 308 On 7681 on Second layer of ballasting.... http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-308 Page 309 7716 [Alternative style of stile in fell walling (Chip)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-309 Page 310 7726/7727 "Great Gathering" of 9Fs!! (August 4) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-310 Page 310 7728 [black 5 at Bangor video (Polly)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-310 Page 311 7756/7779 Station area ballasted http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-311 Page 311 7758 [Lanarkshire Models buffer stops (Jason)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-311 Page 314 7833 Mankini Man and Comical Ali's 9F adventure (August 13) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-314 Page 314 7844 on Discussion of Sand as a cess material http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-314 Page 315 7871 Filtered sand in the cess: attempt 1 http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-315 Page 315 7872 Ash-ballasting of sidings: Jason http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-315 Page 316 7888 Change of cess colour http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-316 Page 316/7 7896/7904 First siding "ash" ballasted http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-316 Page 317 7922 Sidings 1 and 2 "ashed" http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-317 Page 318 7950 General views of ballasting/cess/sidings (August 20) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-318 Page 319 7956/7958 [Kirkby Stephen photos (Polly)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-319 Page 320 7981/7984 Weathering of ballast: station/viaduct areas http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-320 Page 320 8000 Midland 4F pics on the viaduct http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-320 Page 321 8012 Midland 4F and cattle trucks http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-321 Page 322 8027 First stone wall weathering http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-322 Page 322 8027 First appearance of GRASS on the Fell!! (August 25) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-322 Page 323/4 8063/8087 More Fell grasswork http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-323 Page 324 8076 [Julia Bradbury on the Fell!! (Scott - who else?)] http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-324 Page 324 8089 Discussion of Fell structures, incl. Air Vent http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-324 Page 326 8133 Discussion of stone walling - where/how much? http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-326 Page 328 8187 Helvellyn walk: Sheepfold, wall and fell pics (September 1) http://www.rmweb.co....mences/page-328 Page 328 8189 Sheepfold near Grisedale Beck http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-328 Page 328 8200 [Withered trees on Lakeland Fells (Bill)] http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-328 Page 329 8205/8228 Modified fascia in front of the Fell http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-329 Page 330 8236 [Discussion of 4F models, incl. Jason pics] http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-330 Page 330 8239 Sheepfold modelled in DAS stone bricks http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-330 Page 331 8275 on Discussion of KL time-frame http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-331 Page 334 8348-50 Left-hand section of Fell walling completed http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-334 Page 335 8356 Wider-angle views of Fell progress http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-335 Page 336 8384/8404 Ascending wall construction near tunnel portal http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-336 Page 336 8387 [Windswept trees on Lakeland fells (Chip)] http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-336 Page 337 8411 on Discussion of derelict building on the Fell http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-337 Page 337 8422/23 TMC Weathered 4F photos (Sept 12) http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-337 Page 338 8434 [bodgit's aerosol backscene technique http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-338 Page 339 8451 on Kadees discussion http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-339 Page 339 8465/8475 Blencathra walk: Fell panoramas http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-339 Page 341 8504 [s&C in the 60s, YouTube video (Scott)] http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-341 Page 344 8586-7/8594 Ongoing walling, Fell right side and plans http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-344 Page 348 8682 Right-hand section of Fell walling ~ completed (Sept 23) http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-348 Page 348 8695 Requested views of Fiddle Yard http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-348 Page 349 8716/8722 [Jason's splendid Bacup/weathered wagon pics] http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-349 Page 352 8793 4F and weathered wagon photos http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-352 Page 353 8804 16 tonne weathered mineral wagon photos http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-353 Page 353 8808 [AndyP weathered wagon pics] http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-353 Page 356 8892 Sketch plan of "Shepherd's cottage" (October 9) http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-356 Page 356 8894 Ply shell of cottage constructed http://www.rmweb.co....or-now/page-356 TO BE CONTINUED......... 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Mythocentric Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 You'd think that with all the expertise they've gained with bonzai trees, the Japanese would have come up with bonzai grass by now and save us all a lot of messing about, would'nt you? Bill 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 2c from Down Under: I'm with Andy on this one - I think if you carried on the idea of contours dropping down into the scene, a model that is Dent-esque would work well. By carring on the contours from the "small hillock" along in front of the station, you avoid the flat earth* scenario, and the railway then looks like it came after the scenery... (having said that, I also appreciate that Kirkby Stephen is a lot more level than Dent, so may be what you want to follow) Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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